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  Were Bible writers flat earthers?

  by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  job 26:7 he stretches out the northern sky over empty space, well should it be the southern that has empty space under it?.

  the north pole has the earth under it?.

  the south pole has empty space under it?.

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  joey jojo

  Fisherman

  • So the sun stood still and the moon did not move”

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  • It could be argued that the sun does not move in relation to the earth but if you read carefully, the verse only says the moon did not move. There is poetic argument in relation to the sun.

  
  

  The Sun standing still is exactly the same as the Sun not moving. I dont think there is any room for poetic licence in that statement.

  Heres a confirmed false statement from the bible:
  

  Gen 1:11-13: God creates vegetation on the third day.

  Gen 1:14-19 God creates the Sun, along with the moon and stars on the fourth day.

  As far as Im aware, vegetation generally doesnt grow and reproduce very well without the Sun.
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  Were Bible writers flat earthers?

  by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  job 26:7 he stretches out the northern sky over empty space, well should it be the southern that has empty space under it?.

  the north pole has the earth under it?.

  the south pole has empty space under it?.

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  joey jojo

  The idea of Raqia or firmament was apparently like a beaten, flat sheet, on which the stars, moon, sun were attached.

  Even now, when you really think about it, its hard to believe the earth on which we stand is spinning at 1000 miles per hour and is orbiting the sun at about 67000 miles per hour.

  Imagine trying to comprehend that if you were living in 3000BC.
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  Can the org's finances be viewed?

  by BoogerMan in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  does anyone know where to view the wtbts of new york and pennsylvania's financial records?.

  i mean, they are registered charities aren't they, so surely their income/expenditures must be open to scrutiny?.

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  joey jojo

  Here are the financials for Australia since 2013.

  The last couple of years has seen a big drop in donations, from around $25- 30 million to $8 - 10 million per year.

  https://www.acnc.gov.au/charity/charities/77f70f2a-39af-e811-a963-000d3ad244fd/documents/

  This from Canada:

  About Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society of Canada:

  Watch Tower is a 0-star charity with Low demonstrated impact. The charity does not have a website and reports very little about its $30m programs and their results. Watch Tower has large funding reserves and is not financially transparent.

  For every dollar donated, 99 cents go to the cause, which is outside Ci’s reasonable range for overhead spending. When a charity reports overhead spending of less than 5%, it sometimes suggests that the numbers are inaccurate or misreported.
  

  https://www.charityintelligence.ca/charity-details/40-watch-tower-bible-and-tract-society-of-canada
  
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  Unbelievable Amount of PIMOS at Massachusetts JW Convention

  by RESPECTFUL OBSERVER in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  this comment was made on reddit, perhaps protesting is starting to get the witnesses' attention.. it amazed me how many jehovah's witnesses exiting the convention were reading the protester's signs.

  some of the witnesses were taking pictures of the signs.

  jws were going by and smiling and giving a thumbs up.

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  joey jojo

  A JW gave me the zoom details for the memorial this year and so I tune into the meeting incognito for a few mins once in a while .

  Tonights mid-week had 50 on zoom and only 3 with their cameras on. Worse than last time I checked.
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  JWs unrecognisable compared to my grandfathers time

  by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  my grandfather who has been dead for 37 years would not recognise the borganisation today.

  he would turn in his grave if he knew the end didn’t come by 2023.. back in the 1970s he really believed in the 75 thing.

  he was so disappointed and almost blamed everyone else why the end didn’t come.

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  joey jojo

  What do you mean by 'your grandfathers time'?

  His time is your time - your lives overlapped- you are part of the same generation- havent you been paying attention to jw.org??
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  JW current stance on Vaccines?

  by lcarter017 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  it came to my attention that the covid-19 vaccine works by editing the genetic code of the mitochondrial dna, using gene therapy.. you should seriously question the moral implications of allowing a part of your dna to be modified.

  does anyone have any concerns about this?if anyone has any questions, i can do my best to explain.

  i personally find it very suspicious how they chose to word it, and conveniently inform us of this fact "after" people have taken the vaccine..

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  joey jojo

  Sorry Vid, they just look like more questionable charts. Whats the point? Yes, hygiene and water quality has improved over the last 150 years, along with better medical care, scientific research and vaccines.

  The typhoid vaccine has been around since the late 1800's and anyone that travels to countries like India or Thailand is taking a risk if they dont get it.

  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Learn_The_Risk
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  JW current stance on Vaccines?

  by lcarter017 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  it came to my attention that the covid-19 vaccine works by editing the genetic code of the mitochondrial dna, using gene therapy.. you should seriously question the moral implications of allowing a part of your dna to be modified.

  does anyone have any concerns about this?if anyone has any questions, i can do my best to explain.

  i personally find it very suspicious how they chose to word it, and conveniently inform us of this fact "after" people have taken the vaccine..

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  joey jojo

  Question for vidqun and lv101.

  When did you guys become anti vax? You describe vaccines as 'death injections' and 'venom'. Have you always felt that way about vaccines? Be honest.

  Or has it only happened since you have read unreferenced, unsubstantiated 'evidence' on Facebook and Twitter and decided these streamers know more than the entire medical community combined?

  Seriously, what are your thoughts about traditional vaccines like polio, malaria, whooping cough etc?

  You realise there are some groups that have been anti vax long before covid, is it possible these groups have used the pandemic to push their narrative and suck in a lot of people?
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  Lots of empty seats at Jehovah's Witnesses Convention in Tucson, Arizona

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  https://youtu.be/5926nhzyz90.

  the jehovah's witness 2023 convention theme is, ''exercise patience''...by looking at the attendance at this tucson, arizona convention, it should be changed to, '' jehovah's witnesses...running out of patience''.

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  joey jojo

  If the numbers attending keep declining, how will the Borg respond?

  In the past, scaring the sh1t out of jws has been their answer and it makes me wonder if they will be forced to announce something big to scare the rank and file straight again.

  They seem to be going down a soft and gentle road with caleb and Sophia videos and soft Christian rock music. Will that change, or will they stick with new approach until the older generations die out and no one remembers the old, hardcore version?
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  Poll says Gen Xer's would like to return to pre-internet

  by SydBarrett in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  according to a new harris poll shared exclusively with fast company, most americans would prefer to live in a simpler era before everyone was obsessed with screens and social media, and this sentiment is especially strong among older millennials and gen xers.. asked whether they would like to return to a time before humanity was “plugged in”—meaning before people had wide access to the internet and smartphones—77% of americans age 35-54 said they would, the highest of any group.. .

  what would you consider your ideal level of the internet?

  as a gen x'er, i would not want to go back to the per-internet world, but i would like to go back in some specific technologies.

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  joey jojo

  Interesting that gen x'ers feel this way.

  When the internet started becoming mainstream in 1993, us gen x'ers were finishing high school, attending uni, or starting jobs, so we were the last generation to finish our entire school life without the internet, although video games and improving computer technology was a part of our lives.

  Could it be the disaffected gen x, latch-key generation scepticism rearing its head again? Happy and comfortable with technology, but not as excited about it as the snowflake generation seems to be?
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  Facts or Biasedness?

  by Ardian in

  1. social
  2. current

  the watchtower and awake have been listed as the most popular magazines.the figures are astonishing.

  i am not sure whether it is based on reality or not.. source: https://tingtopten.com/2020/01/top-10-most-popular-magazines-in-the-world/.

  i have seen the link on many social media networks.

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  joey jojo

  Its a captive audience.

  8 million baptised dubs get a copy each, plus another 6 or so on average for placement. Theres your 40- 50 million without even trying.

  Now, how many of these are actually read cover to cover - even by JW's?

  Of the non- JW's who receive a free copy, how many of them would leave their house and go buy a copy if that was the only way to get it? Probably zero.